>> to quote bill clinton, they think you're stupid. it's more a play for the media being stupid, saying look here's a chance to even it up, the press loves to even it up and pennsylvania is a way -- >> are they trying to get obama to put resources into pennsylvania? >> it is part of it. there is an element of a head fake to see can we shake something lose here, can we see movement in numbers, can we make them spend time there, maybe once you're playing those kinds of games you know that your path to 70 is limited. as you said you better get ohio because pennsylvania is garbage. >> when people tune in on tuesday night and they see you lawrence o'donnell reading these election results. >> no, they're going to see rachel maddow. i will be sitting somewhere nearby being very quiet. >> there's a funny thing where they're going to look at the bottom of the screen and see these votes coming in, it's going to start at zero and go. but that's an artificiality. he has what looks to be a billing lead there and that is concrete. that's not polling